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It's not a strawman. I acknowledge the most important thing is speakers and mics, however I take acception with Glenn making it seem two very different sounding amps actually sound identical. I did a followup video to this as well that shows the mid ranges for both amps are in entirely different places and I couldnt get them sounding identical without a lot of post EQ. That's the problem, Glenn is being hyperbolic and misleading to prove a point. I'm sorry you didnt get the point of the video or my complaint.

Plenty of the people I went into detail about didn't use rack gear. The thrash guys just boosted their amps with a tube screamer or sd1, Zakk boosted his with an sd1 and use a chorus pedal, tom doesn't really use rack gear. Point is it comes down to the music played, less on what's it played on. I could use a jcm800, a tube screamer, an a mesa os cab loaded with v30s and that rig would be great for thrash metal, death metal, power metal, hair metal, rock, blues, all sorts of stuff. Just depends on the context it's being used.

It's better as a distortion, but it has a built in cab sim and is called a preamp. Blows my mind how it sounds.

Yeah love that guitar.snsgged one the year it released at NAMM. Played it and loved it. Would recommend.

Way different. The EVH is tighter and more compressed. The KSR has less gain for sure, definitely more low mid content and needs a boost to get into modern high gain territory, it also has more tonal versatility overall.

@@MetalHeadProductions Thanks for the reply man! Which would you keep? This is helping me tremendously.

@@alejandroglz.b.4590 I would like both, I own the evh and that is more my style personally.

​@@MetalHeadProductionsThanks man! I had an EVH 5150 III which I sold to look for something "better" but everything points me back into that direction.

I've owned a couple sets, these are super different. His blackouts are cool but I prefer these.

Unfortunately their wiring is soldering and it's very complicated with all the voicings, haha. Only downside really.

Nah, not only is it made better, but you get a dedicated mode 3, the boost mode, a blend, and of course that hm2 frequency control. Does a lot more than the behringer.

Less about getting more gain, more about how they perform with your gear, really.

Oh Fishmans are super clear, because of how they work and are voiced, these are probably some of the most precise and clear pickups on the market.

@@MetalHeadProductions What do you think of people saying they sound thin and weal? Doesn't sound like it this video, but I've played through a set myself.

@@MetalHeadProductions What do you think of people saying they sound thin and weal? Doesn't sound like it this video, but I've played through a set myself.

@@aaron9142 I think most people that say that are talking about the moderns or the kse sets, for example. These are tight for sure, tighter than passives, but still have that chunk on the low mid. The moderns are super tight which is why people say they're thin. Kinda just depends on what you want and what gear you're hitting really.

@MetalHeadProductions Makes sense. I think people just like to complain. lol

Well it is hard to tell how it compares to other sets without actually comparing them in the video, so that probably wouldn't come across. I like these way better than the kse set, which I didn't really care for personally. These are less compressed, have more low mid content so they sound fuller and chunkier while still remaining tight, I felt the kse set was way too tight for my taste. I wasn't in love with the V2 passive voicing of the kse, I think the V2 voicing of these is a really nice balance of medium, lower medium output, more midrange and just feels good to play in a way that just didn't click for me with the kse set.

@@MetalHeadProductions thank you!

Thanks, this comment added a lot.

@@MetalHeadProductions .....ok...

@@DadOnBass I mean, come on, man, that comment warranted some sarcasm

C'mon boys, stop fighting and play nice :P

@@MetalHeadProductions Oh, I kinda thought you were just being an asshole. lol

I haven't tried the bass boost jumper yet so I can't say, but it might be a pretty small difference that might be more of a feel thing. Idk, haven't tried it yet.

@@MetalHeadProductions did you noticed that the passive voicing is totally different then the normal modern set? When you play clean on passive it sounds more like a single coil for me,.thin and sharper then a modern set

@@Hellhammer1980 theres a single coil voicing and a passive voicing. the passive voicing is way lower output on these than the moderns, but its definitely not thin or like a single coil. I think you might be playing on the single coil voicing and not realizing it.

Haha, oh boy, little bit of info and people run with it. Absolutely speakers, mix placement and amps are going to make the biggest difference. 100% no question. Pickups do matter though, how you hit your gear, how they feel to play, the options they provide. It's like an artist with different brushes or a builder with different tools. You might not know what they used in the end product, but it certainly matters to the person crafting it. These are a lot different than my Fishman moderns and the other Fishmans I've used and owned over the years so I'm happy to have and use these. If you'd be fine with saying a set of moderns, that's great, but these are very different from those.

I think he's trying to make an important point that the biggest factor is the speakers and mics, and I think he's doing that by being a bit hyperbolic and by being insulting.

Hey to each their own, I would say you have to tune the gear a bit to the pickups. I personally love my moderns, and gotta say they're definitely not over compressed and are way less compressed than EMGs or blackouts. I think what throws people off so much is with traditional pickups you're kind getting everything, good and bad, hitting the amp, and with the Fishmans, which are all analog, they're able to carve out a lot of what you don't want leaving you with what is "ideal." But if that version of what's ideal isn't working for you, no worries. I definitely don't think they're overhyped, I've owned a lot of different Fishmans over the years and they're the most consistent pickups money can buy, all the voicing options mean every pickup is three in one, and for actives, things like these mock Thompson's, the moderns and some of their other sets are my hands down favorites. If you get results you like better with something else then more power to you, that's what's great about all the variety on the market.

@@MetalHeadProductions Sure, all art things are generally a matter of taste. I mean Fishmans are nice and solid, and I get why many people like them (I moderately like their guitar pickups too, and love their bass pickups). They also match the current trend in sound production (in particular, having low-cut mid-focused rhythm guitars in the mix). It's just my personal preference to have a bit different sonic signature and a full uncut range from fat lows to biting highs, while keeping transparency and power. I also respect Fishman's technical innovation, which is important for the industry - kudos to them. Thanks for the review!

@@greymatter800 absolutely, I have tons of different pickups to have all kinds of different tools to work with and you don't dig them personally that's all good, man. I don't personally gel with certain pickups and gear either, so no worries, we have all these options anyways.

I personally like these better than the blackouts. These are more dynamic for sure, less compressed, less output for sure so it's not as crazy hot and it doesn't have absolute massive low-end, but you can increase the lowend with the jumper. I liked his blackouts but they were always too much and I ended up fighting with them, way prefer these myself, but that's just preference.

Eq and pickup height with the blackouts they are very sensitive to those changes my EMTY I lower the height a bit for better sound dropA is amazing

The bridge is ceramic and the neck is alnico V.

Takes all flavors. I personally don't like using 81s. I end up fighting them, doesn't feel right and feel like it never hits the amp like I want. Definitely want my guitar to perform how I want when I'm playing and recording. Won't make the huge difference in the final sound though like a speaker or mic.

Might have said it fast, but Mick and mc basically sound the same and who knows if my brain added the p while saying Thomson, haha

@@MetalHeadProductions lol, all good - to be fair, I mistyped what I was trying to say - oh well. all fun - pickups sounds pretty good, better than I expected, thanks for digging deep into them (looking to swap out the Keith Merrow sigs in my KM7 MKIII artist - Lundgren M7, nazgul/sentient, Jupiter rails are on the list

@@LeeJoRo the m7 is super killer, love mine and my Keith set, got those both in two different guitars. Wanted to get the 6 string Jupiter but it's too wide for my guitars to direct mount, so oh well, haha

@@MetalHeadProductions if I had another mid priced guitar worth upgrading, I would put some M7's in it... or get one of the new Keith Merrow signatures... but they're around £2000+

@@LeeJoRo I love my km schecter

They don't have that more nasal midrange some people associate with the moderns, no.

I mean the Ragnarok is going to have more low-end, it's a high output passive, won't be as clear as something like a fishman. Rags are cool though.

@@MetalHeadProductions thank you for your answer. I want to order a custom guitar and you really helped me to choose a pickups for it. Could you also tell your opinion about Mick's Fishmans in comparison with Moderns?

@@ruslan_kvtvnv little less output, doesn't have that midrange spike that some people love with the moderns and some people hate. Fuller low mids for palm mutes and you can add more low-end with the jumper on the bridge pickup. The second voicing is a much lower output passive pickup not nearly as hot as the second voicing of the moderns.

lol fix

You're probably digging the extra low-end you get from the root set then, these are tighter than that, however there is a jumper on the bridge pickup that adds more low-end to the pickups. Personally, with an active, I have been going towards wanting something tighter, that isn't like a passive, which is why I do dig my modern in my Star destroyer and gel really well with these.

Hmm, I don't really feel that way about it being closer to the V2 voice of the moderns but tweaked.

Fishmans can be so different and much more precise, and you really gotta tweak the amp to them, but I personally love them.

Same, haha